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What bitrate is needed to sound like analog FM?

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As it turns out, 300 kbp/s or greater.  At least in critical listening environments according to the paper titled Perceived Audio Quality of Realistic FM and DAB+ Radio Broadcasting Systems (.pdf) published by the Journal of the Audio Engineering Society. This work was done by group in Sweden and made various observations with different program material and listening subjects. Each person was given a sample of analog FM audio to listen to, then they listened to various audio selections which were using bit reduction algorithms (AKA CODEC or Compression) and graded each one.  The methodology is very thorough and there is little left for subjective interpretation.

In less critical listening environments, bit rates of 160-192 kbp/s will work.

I made a chart and added HD Radio’s proprietary CODEC HDC, which is similar to, but not compatible with AAC:

System Codec Bit Rate (kbp/s)
HD Radio FM; HD1 channel* HDC (similar to AAC) 96 – 144
HD Radio FM; HD2 channel* HDC 24-48
HD Radio FM; HD3 channel* HDC 24-48
HD Radio AM* HDC 20-60
DRM30 (MF-HF) AAC/HE-AAC 34-72
DAB+ AAC/HE-AAC 32 – 128
DAB MPEG II, Dolby digital 192 – 256
Blu-ray PCM** ≥6 Mbp/s
DVD PCM, DTS, Dolby digital >800
CD-A PCM 1,411
Web Streaming MPEG I,II,III, WMA, AAC, etc 32-320, 128 typical
iTunes AAC 128 – 256
Spotify Ogg Vorbis 96 – 320
Wimp AAC/HE-AAC 64 – 256

*Hydbrid mode
**PCM: uncompressed data

This is the composite Mean Basic Audio Quality and 95% confidence intervals for system across all excerpts:


Over the years, we have simply become accustomed to and now accept low quality audio from mp3 files being played over cheap computer speakers or through cheap ear buds.  Does this make it right?  In our drive to take something good and make it better, perhaps it should be, you know: Better.

Special thanks to Trevor from Surrey Electronics Limited.

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5 comments to What bitrate is needed to sound like analog FM?

  • Maybe it’s a matter of “compared to what,” but using a Sony HD tuner, the local 50 kW AM that runs HD undergoes an amazing transformation as the receiver syncs up — the noise floor drops, the high end opens up and the low end unmuddies, while the sound field expands.

    The contrast with the lousy-but-listenable regular signal is really staggering. If you had plenty of signal and not much noise, a really good AM tuner could come close, especially back before preemphasis came to AM, though usually getting good sound on more than the very nearest station took an outdoor antenna of some size.

    The content on the local high-powwer HD AM is still a relatively uninspired sports format. The quality is improved but there’s still nothing there for me. Now, if only the system could only work the same magic with the very non-local college AMer from Purdue….

    Still, I do think HD AM sounds markedly better than plain old AM on modern hardware. But so did AM Stereo. We keep proving that no matter how we fiddle with signal quality, people stay away in droves if there’s nothing there they want to hear.

  • Lee Rust

    As far as audio is concerned it seems like we passed ‘peak fidelity’ some time ago. Back in the analog days, hi-fi meant that the transcription and playback system had to aim for actual physical duplication of the original sound or waveform. With digital audio, various forms of psychoacoustic masking and other perceptual tricks fool the listener’s brain with the illusion of high fidelity.

    Bandwidth is money. The marketplace is telling us old timers that simulated sound is OK as long as there are millions of channels to choose from. When we’re gone nobody will remember what hi-fi was all about.

    Another aspect of this cultural shift is the fact that the actual experience of ‘natural sound’ in music and the performing arts is becoming increasingly rare. Symphonic concerts with no amplification are attended mostly by the elderly. Younger ears rarely experience public sounds that are unmodified by microphones, amplifiers, speakers, earbuds, equalization, effects, codecs or other forms of distortion and enhancement. At home, the acoustic environment is generally muddled by background audio and mechanical noise sources. Even face-to-face conversation is getting scarcer in an artificial environment of phoning, texting and Facebooking.

  • I think Lee brings up some very interesting observations. I remember growing up and being exposed to people who had a love of sound and this inspired me to become an audiophile, saving up to purchase quality audio components for a home sound system. Today, young people listen to music of varying quality from a multitude of sources and often play it back on inferior equipment such as cheap earbuds and portable players that are far from audiophile quality. Audio quality has taken a back seat to just having the noise available. Something Lee didn’t mention was the culture of listening to music has changed, too. Placing a record on the turntable, cleaning it and then placing the tonearm on it was part of the experience in addition to “getting lost” in the liner notes and reading them – even if you’ve read them countless times. This experience started going away with the CD as packaging started getting less and less.

    @Roberta: You’re on the money when it comes to content being king, but I really think HD was something we could have lived without. I remember listening to the AM station I would eventually engineer on a Sony SRF-A1 Walkman back when the station installed their Kahn AM Stereo system. I had to do a double-take to make sure I wasn’t listening to FM. The audio quality was phenomenal and it was hard to believe AM could sound that good. Analog AM started heading downhill with the NRSC-1 mask and manufacturers making their AM radios sound like junk.

  • Nick Straka

    Codecs are like the Matrix to me… once you hear it working you can’t unhear it!! Even at very high bitrates I can hear the tell-tale metallic sound of AAC. Forget about MP3.

    If you ever want to hear all the crap that is being “masked” by your favorite lossy codec of choice, listen to the L-R of the file. All the swishing, swirling and garbled mess is contained there. For an FM situation using compressed music files or a compressed STL, all that garbage is going in your L-R subcarrier. All that’s doing is increasing the chance for more multipath.

    Uncompressed files, uncompressed STL and a good analog FM exciter can sound amazing. Sadly, the digital versions, while quieter with weak signal, will not have the same “depth” that analog has. As for AM HD, I can’t take the SBR that is on the codec. I’d rather listen to mellow, warm 4k audio than screechy “HD” audio.

  • Joseph Somsel

    The absolute best sound reproduction I’ve experienced in my home was a live studio broadcast over uncompressed FM with pure analogue in the signal path (KKUP in Silicon Valley). It beats vinyl and hi res digital even.

    FM is capable of wonderful things. Too bad it is losing market share to low quality sound.

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