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Cold War Relic, ATT long lines microwave site Kingston, NY

11 comments to Cold War Relic, ATT long lines microwave site Kingston, NY

  • Mark Fosella

    Thank you for that very informative article on that old AT&T microwave horn antenna site. As a kid in the late 60′s I was so intrigued by those towers. We passed a few of them on I-95 between NY and CT. I think this is a great history lesson for anyone to learn not only about electronics but about America. We have one tower here in downtown St. Petersburg, FL that is now used for other things but I can tell that it, at one time, had those large horns.

    Keep up the good work.

    Regards,

    Mark S. Fosella

  • J. Aegerter

    I happen to own a bunch of these AT&T goodies. What most people don’t realize is that the KS-15676 horns used were broadband 3.6-12 GHz. which in the mid-’50′s when they were developed was something unheard of. The first system was TDX, a short route to prove that the idea was feasible from Boston to New York. Success here led to improvements and the trans-continental TD-2 at 4 GHz. from NJ to San Francisco that carried NBC TV network programs to affiliates. CBS, Dumont, and ABC followed, and by 1955, they were pretty much out of bandwidth. A second parallel route at 6 GHz. (TH-1) ran traveling wave tubes at 12.5 watts out per bank required 10 ton of A/C at each site for cooling. It all came to a screeching halt with their discovery of lasers and fiber-optic technology in 1962. Their competition ran with AT&T’s discovery and beat them to the punch with a pin, while AT&T remained fat, dumb, and happy with the huge revenue stream that was coming in. While AT&T was asleep, others were at work. The SPRINT “pin drop” commercials took AT&T into a frenzy! By 1991, most of the Long-Lines microwave sites were sitting idle, and by 1998 the majority were sold. I bought my first one in 1989 which was one of the dedicated sites to deliver NBC network programming to Channel 3, (later Channel 4). The money that went into building these sites and the network had to be unbelievable! But of course at that time, the United States was a leader in the world, and certainly not what it is today.

  • KC

    Fascinating post.

    I always knew that those giant horns were microwave, but I thought they were receive-only, and that some other design was used for send.

    A question for J. Aegerter: why do you own one of these sites, if they haven’t been functional for two decades? Parts/scrap? Conversion into condos? :)

  • Michaela

    Thank you for that very informative article on that old AT&T microwave horn antenna site. As a kid in the late 60′s I was so intrigued by those towers. We passed a few of them on I-95 between NY and CT. I think this is a great history lesson for anyone to learn not only about electronics but about America. We have one tower here in downtown St. Petersburg, FL that is now used for other things but I can tell that it, at one time, had those large horns.

    Keep up the good work.

    Regards,

    Mark S. Fosella

  • J. Aegerter

    Dear KC:
    AT&T was a customer of ours at the time and mentioned that de-commissioning of the site was taking place in early 1989, and if I would be interested in purchasing the site to extend our paging range to the south. I purchased it to do just that. However, the deed was not transfered until strict environmental policies on underground tank removal was accomplished by AT&T. It turned out that the underground fuel tank was in near perfect condition, but was removed because AT&T wanted zero liability down the road.

  • Paul Thurst

    At&T had a cathodic protection system for all of it’s underground tanks at this site. I must have been quite effective, because when the UST was pulled out in 2000, the primer was still on the tank. They could have hosed it off and resold it as new.

  • Steve Morrell

    Thanks very much for the extremely interesting article. I continue to be fascinated by the history of the Bell System. So much of our American history is woven into the development of telecommunications. I just drove by a large ATT Long Lines tower this past Sunday on I-45 in north Texas near Ennis. I live in Fort Worth and would love to be able to take a peek inside this or another such facility someday, but I don’t have much hope in ever being able to make the right connection (ha ha) to do so. I’d also love to go into an old Bell central office sometime.

    By the way, I did a little teaching to my 15 year old son about Long Lines and how they carried long distance telephone and TV, etc. in the “olden days.” He loves it when I use that term. I also knew enough to tell him that these facilities were hardened to be able to withstand a nearby bomb blast during the Cold War. I also told him that old story about how Long Lines did a hurry-up job in 1964 to enable LBJ to conduct some kind of live press conference from the Johnson Ranch in the Texas Hill Country when a head of state was visiting.

    Anyone know of a club or group consisting of retired Bell workers and engineers? I’d love to meet some. Also, does anyone have any idea who to contact in the Dallas/Fort Worth area that might be able to get me into a Long Lines tower site and/or an old central office?

    Regards to all.

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  • Shawn

    This was an excellent article! These relics of the past fascinate me.

  • Kevin

    Thanks for this great article. I stumbled on it doing a search. I grew up 15 minutes south of these towers. My dad used to work in this building when I was a young boy and every time we would drive down route 209 approaching Kingston I would always stare at the towers in fascination.

  • Tracy

    I just spent three days in one of these sites. They still had the TD-2 and TD-3 radios installed! The power had been disconnected so they were not broadcasting. I was amazed at the quality of the craftsmanship with the rigid waveguide and electrical cabling. Another thing I was amazed with was how many spare parts was on hand. I learned a lot from just handling and studying the internals of the waveguide fittings and such.

    Truly a remarkable thing to behold.

    The site I visited was near Seattle, Washington.

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