{"id":7747,"date":"2014-03-27T08:00:14","date_gmt":"2014-03-27T12:00:14","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/?p=7747"},"modified":"2023-03-29T13:29:39","modified_gmt":"2023-03-29T17:29:39","slug":"filtering-for-co-located-fm-transmitters","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/2014\/03\/filtering-for-co-located-fm-transmitters\/","title":{"rendered":"Filtering for co-located FM transmitters"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Well-sited FM transmitter locations usually want some height above average terrain. This means either a tall tower or a high hill or mountain. Once a site is developed, co-location of other FM transmitters often happens because sites are expensive to develop. A second station can save money by using existing facilities.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For all those newly permitted LPFM stations; pay attention. If you are going to be co-located at an existing FM broadcast site, you may need to do this too.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Interference from intermodulation mixing products can develop when FM transmitting antennas are in close proximity.&nbsp; This is especially true with solid state, broadband PA commonly used in today&#8217;s VHF FM transmitters.&nbsp; Thus, when antennas are closely placed, external filtering is required.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/WUPE-satellite.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"650\" height=\"511\" src=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/WUPE-satellite-650x511.jpg\" alt=\"WUPE FM transmitter site, North Adams, MA\" class=\"wp-image-7762\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/WUPE-satellite-650x511.jpg 650w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/WUPE-satellite-150x117.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/WUPE-satellite-300x235.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/WUPE-satellite-400x314.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/WUPE-satellite.jpg 786w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 650px) 100vw, 650px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">WUPE FM transmitter site, North Adams, MA<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>This is the case with a current project in North Adams, Massachusetts.\u00a0 <a rel=\"noopener\" href=\"http:\/\/nepr.net\/\" target=\"_blank\">New England Public Radio<\/a> is placing WNNI on the air from the WUPE-FM site.\u00a0 WNNI is using one of those new Harris (now GatesAir?) Flexiva transmitters and WUPE-FM uses a <a rel=\"noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/2011\/09\/the-crown-fm2000a-transmitter\/\" target=\"_blank\">Crown FM-2000A<\/a>.\u00a0 The antennas are on separate towers, but the towers are in very close proximity, about 30 feet apart.\u00a0 In order to avoid any possible problems, a Shively <a href=\"http:\/\/www.shively.com\/nav-bpfilters.php\">2602-3A-FB<\/a> 3 pole filter was installed on each station.\u00a0 The filter is a bandpass for the station installed and a notch for the other station.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The primary concern here is mixing products between the two transmitters.&nbsp; Both have broadband solid-state amplifiers with low-pass filters before the output connector.&nbsp; There are three frequencies of interest;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>(F1 &#8211; F2) + F1 or (100.1 MHz &#8211; 98.9 MHz ) + 100.1 MHz = 101.3 MHz<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>F2 &#8211; (F1 &#8211; F2) or 98.9 MHz &#8211; (100.1MHz&nbsp; &#8211; 98.9MHz) = 97.3 MHz<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>F2 + F1 or 100.1 MHz + 98.9 MHz = 199 MHz<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p>That, plus harmonic measurements out to three or four harmonics of the fundamental frequency should be enough to demonstrate compliance with FCC out-of-band emissions standards.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Measurements on these frequencies must meet the emissions standards outlined in FCC 73.317 (d), which states:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>Any emission appearing on a frequency removed from the carrier by more than 600 kHz must be attenuated at least 43 + 10 Log10 (Power, in watts) dB below the level of the unmodulated carrier, or 80 dB, whichever is the lesser attenuation.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>It is also noted that this site has several cellular carriers and no doubt has or will have LTE at some point. We all know that rural LTE installations can create<a rel=\"noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/2013\/07\/the-curious-case-of-the-wkze-notice-of-violation\/\" target=\"_blank\"> self-induced problems<\/a>, which are then conveniently blamed on the nearest broadcast station because, hey, why not?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>To further complicate matters, New England Public Radio also has a translator, W266AW (101.1 MHz) on the same tower as WNNI.\u00a0 The same measurements noted above must be repeated for the translator.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/WNNI-transmitter-and-filter.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"400\" height=\"600\" src=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/WNNI-transmitter-and-filter-400x600.jpg\" alt=\"WNNI FM transmitter and Shively filter\" class=\"wp-image-7763\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/WNNI-transmitter-and-filter-400x600.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/WNNI-transmitter-and-filter-100x150.jpg 100w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/WNNI-transmitter-and-filter-200x300.jpg 200w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/WNNI-transmitter-and-filter-900x1350.jpg 900w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/WNNI-transmitter-and-filter.jpg 1000w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">WNNI FM transmitter and Shively filter<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>WNNI equipment rack.&nbsp; This is one of those new Harris (GatesAir?) Flexiva FM transmitters.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/WUPE-FM-filter.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"400\" height=\"600\" src=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/WUPE-FM-filter-400x600.jpg\" alt=\"WUPE-FM Shively Filter\" class=\"wp-image-7764\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/WUPE-FM-filter-400x600.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/WUPE-FM-filter-100x150.jpg 100w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/WUPE-FM-filter-200x300.jpg 200w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/WUPE-FM-filter-900x1350.jpg 900w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/WUPE-FM-filter.jpg 1000w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">WUPE-FM Shively Filter<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>WUPE FM filter installation<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/WNNI-FM-antenna.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"400\" height=\"600\" src=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/WNNI-FM-antenna-400x600.jpg\" alt=\"wave spaced Shively antenna.  Antenna for W266AW below\" class=\"wp-image-7765\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/WNNI-FM-antenna-400x600.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/WNNI-FM-antenna-100x150.jpg 100w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/WNNI-FM-antenna-200x300.jpg 200w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/WNNI-FM-antenna-900x1350.jpg 900w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/WNNI-FM-antenna.jpg 1000w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">WNNI 4 bay half wave spaced Shively antenna. Antenna for W266AW below<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>New WNNI antenna mounted on cell tower next to WUPE-FM tower. The W266AW translator antenna is directly below WNNI&#8217;s main antenna.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/WUPE-FM-antenna.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"650\" height=\"432\" src=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/WUPE-FM-antenna-650x432.jpg\" alt=\"WUPE-FM 3 bay half wave spaced Shively antenna\" class=\"wp-image-7766\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/WUPE-FM-antenna-650x432.jpg 650w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/WUPE-FM-antenna-150x99.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/WUPE-FM-antenna-300x199.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/WUPE-FM-antenna-400x266.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/WUPE-FM-antenna-900x599.jpg 900w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/WUPE-FM-antenna.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 650px) 100vw, 650px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">WUPE-FM 3 bay half wave spaced Shively antenna<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>WUPE-FM antenna installed on the original broadcast tower.&nbsp; I believe the tower dates from 1959 or so.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It is important to get this type of installation right the first time.&nbsp; Creating interference all around or above the FM band is never a good strategy.&nbsp; Going back to ask for more funds to make something right is also highly frowned upon.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Well-sited FM transmitter locations usually want some height above average terrain. This means either a tall tower or a high hill or mountain. Once a site is developed, co-location of other FM transmitters often happens because sites are expensive to develop. A second station can save money by using existing facilities. For all those newly &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/2014\/03\/filtering-for-co-located-fm-transmitters\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Filtering for co-located FM transmitters<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4],"tags":[82,215],"class_list":["post-7747","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-tech-stuff","tag-fm","tag-fm-transmitter-site"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7747","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=7747"}],"version-history":[{"count":13,"href":"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7747\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":11284,"href":"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7747\/revisions\/11284"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=7747"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=7747"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=7747"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}