{"id":6938,"date":"2013-06-22T17:13:02","date_gmt":"2013-06-22T21:13:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/?p=6938"},"modified":"2023-04-08T16:57:54","modified_gmt":"2023-04-08T20:57:54","slug":"mounting-a-new-satellite-dish","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/2013\/06\/mounting-a-new-satellite-dish\/","title":{"rendered":"Mounting a new satellite dish"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Something that almost every radio station has but no one really thinks about; is the satellite downlink. I think radio stations began installing satellite downlink equipment around 1982. Before that, all network programming was carried hither and yon via <a rel=\"noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/2009\/07\/cold-war-relic-att-long-lines-microwave-site-kingston-ny\/\" target=\"_blank\">Ma Bell&#8217;s<\/a> <a rel=\"noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/2011\/03\/bell-system-microwave-relay-system\/\" target=\"_blank\">extensive terrestrial microwave network<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Those early dishes were almost always Scientific Atlanta 9000 series 2.8-meter antenna system, which went with the SA 7300 DATS satellite receiver.\u00a0 Fast forward 31 years and things have changed.\u00a0 The satellite constellation is now spaced at one degree and those old SA 9000 dishes are not one-degree compliant.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/SA-9000-satellite-antenna.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"650\" height=\"433\" src=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/SA-9000-satellite-antenna-650x433.jpg\" alt=\"Scientific Atlanta 9000 series satellite dish\" class=\"wp-image-6946\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/SA-9000-satellite-antenna-650x433.jpg 650w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/SA-9000-satellite-antenna-150x100.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/SA-9000-satellite-antenna-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/SA-9000-satellite-antenna-400x266.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/SA-9000-satellite-antenna.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 650px) 100vw, 650px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Scientific Atlanta 9000 series satellite dish<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Therefore, when it came time to re-aim a dish at AMC8, something new was required.\u00a0 A Prodelin 1374 3.7 meter center-fed C band dish was ordered up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The first thing to do is look at the dish specifications and decide if the suggested mounting procedure is a good one.\u00a0 The soil in this area is sandy loam.\u00a0 The mounting design calls for a six-inch schedule 80 steel pipe at least six feet into the ground.\u00a0 This calls for renting an excavator, digging a six-foot deep hole, buying a 36-inch sono-tube and a 16-foot piece of 6-inch schedule 80 steel pipe, and a couple of yards of concrete from a truck.\u00a0 This work is all being done on the ground system for the WDCD antenna array.\u00a0 All the while, abandoning the old pad and dish in place.\u00a0 Seems like a lot of money and wasted materials.\u00a0 Reusing the old pad and part of the old mount made more sense.\u00a0 I did some rough calculations on paper regarding wind forces, this was the results:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/WDCD-satellite-dish-mount.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"600\" src=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/WDCD-satellite-dish-mount-500x600.jpg\" alt=\"WDCD satellite dish mount design\" class=\"wp-image-6947\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/WDCD-satellite-dish-mount-500x600.jpg 500w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/WDCD-satellite-dish-mount-125x150.jpg 125w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/WDCD-satellite-dish-mount-250x300.jpg 250w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/WDCD-satellite-dish-mount-400x480.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/WDCD-satellite-dish-mount.jpg 1000w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">WDCD satellite dish mount design<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>The maximum static force is 1,555 N on the back bolts of the mounting ring into the concrete pad.\u00a0 Maximum wind force is 5,603 N, and a maximum wind from bearing 76\u00b0 T will exert a force of 7,158 N or 730 Kg force on the back bolts of the mount.\u00a0 The concrete that the mounting bolts is embedded in will withstand 4,267 Kg of force at six inches deep.\u00a0 The the existing pad and 3\/4 inch J bolts are well within their rating to handle this load, so it seems like a good design. Putting that to practical use:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/SA-9000-mount.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"650\" height=\"433\" src=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/SA-9000-mount-650x433.jpg\" alt=\"Scientific Atlanta 9000 series dish mount\" class=\"wp-image-6948\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/SA-9000-mount-650x433.jpg 650w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/SA-9000-mount-150x100.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/SA-9000-mount-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/SA-9000-mount-400x266.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/SA-9000-mount.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 650px) 100vw, 650px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Scientific Atlanta 9000 series dish mount<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>First, we unbolted the azimuth mounting ring and removed the old dish, leaving the bottom of the mount.&nbsp; I drilled down 6 inches into the old concrete pad and inserted 1\/2 inch re-bar.&nbsp; These re-bar are somewhat diagonal toward the center of the tube towards the new mounting pole.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/SA-9000-rebar.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"650\" height=\"433\" src=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/SA-9000-rebar-650x433.jpg\" alt=\"Scientific Atlanta 9000 series dish mount reuse\" class=\"wp-image-6949\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/SA-9000-rebar-650x433.jpg 650w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/SA-9000-rebar-150x100.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/SA-9000-rebar-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/SA-9000-rebar-400x266.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/SA-9000-rebar.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 650px) 100vw, 650px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Scientific Atlanta 9000 series dish mount reuse<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Then, we placed the 6 inch by 8 foot schedule 80 pipe in the center of the tube and attached it to the tube with 1\/2 inch all-thread.\u00a0 We used the all thread to adjust the 6-inch pipe to be vertical.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Next, we filled the old mount up with 4,000 PSI (280 Kg\/square cm) ready-mix concrete and let it cure for one week.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/prodelin-mount1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"650\" height=\"433\" src=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/prodelin-mount1-650x433.jpg\" alt=\"New mount for Prodelin dish\" class=\"wp-image-6950\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/prodelin-mount1-650x433.jpg 650w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/prodelin-mount1-150x100.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/prodelin-mount1-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/prodelin-mount1-400x266.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/prodelin-mount1.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 650px) 100vw, 650px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">New mount for Prodelin dish<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>While that was curing, I bolted the new Prodelin 1374 dish together on the ground.&nbsp; Follow the directions closely on this one, there are many pieces of hardware that look the same and are almost the same but will not work if exchanged.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/prodelin-1374-dish.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"650\" height=\"433\" src=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/prodelin-1374-dish-650x433.jpg\" alt=\"Prodelin 1374 dish about to be lifted\" class=\"wp-image-6951\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/prodelin-1374-dish-650x433.jpg 650w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/prodelin-1374-dish-150x100.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/prodelin-1374-dish-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/prodelin-1374-dish-400x266.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/prodelin-1374-dish.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 650px) 100vw, 650px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Prodelin 1374 dish about to be lifted<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>We used a loader with a lifting bar on it to sling the new dish into place.&nbsp; I was going to video tape this evolution, but we were short handed and I ended up helping bolt the dish on the mount once it was placed there.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/prodelin-1374-installed.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"650\" height=\"433\" src=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/prodelin-1374-installed-650x433.jpg\" alt=\"Prodelin 1374 dish, installed\" class=\"wp-image-6953\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/prodelin-1374-installed-650x433.jpg 650w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/prodelin-1374-installed-150x100.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/prodelin-1374-installed-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/prodelin-1374-installed-400x266.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/prodelin-1374-installed.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 650px) 100vw, 650px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Prodelin 1374 dish, installed<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Once the dish was mounted, I installed the feed horn and LNB.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/WDCD-prodelin-dish-mounted.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"650\" height=\"433\" src=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/WDCD-prodelin-dish-mounted-650x433.jpg\" alt=\"WDCD Albany, NY, Prodelin 1374 dish installded\" class=\"wp-image-6965\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/WDCD-prodelin-dish-mounted-650x433.jpg 650w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/WDCD-prodelin-dish-mounted-150x100.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/WDCD-prodelin-dish-mounted-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/WDCD-prodelin-dish-mounted-400x266.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/WDCD-prodelin-dish-mounted.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 650px) 100vw, 650px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">WDCD Albany, NY, Prodelin 1374 dish installed<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Then there was the aiming; this dish is pointed at AMC-8, for which I found this information from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dishpointer.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">dishpointer.com<\/a> most helpful:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/wdcd-amc-8.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"585\" height=\"600\" src=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/wdcd-amc-8-585x600.jpg\" alt=\"WDCD AMC-8 information, courtesy of dishpointer.com\" class=\"wp-image-6954\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/wdcd-amc-8-585x600.jpg 585w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/wdcd-amc-8-146x150.jpg 146w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/wdcd-amc-8-292x300.jpg 292w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/wdcd-amc-8-400x409.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/wdcd-amc-8.jpg 687w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 585px) 100vw, 585px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">WDCD AMC-8 information, courtesy of dishpointer.com<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>This is a crowded neighborhood and finding the right satellite took a bit of trial and error.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Something that almost every radio station has but no one really thinks about; is the satellite downlink. I think radio stations began installing satellite downlink equipment around 1982. Before that, all network programming was carried hither and yon via Ma Bell&#8217;s extensive terrestrial microwave network. Those early dishes were almost always Scientific Atlanta 9000 series &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/2013\/06\/mounting-a-new-satellite-dish\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Mounting a new satellite dish<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4],"tags":[131],"class_list":["post-6938","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-tech-stuff","tag-satellite"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6938","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=6938"}],"version-history":[{"count":18,"href":"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6938\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":11394,"href":"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6938\/revisions\/11394"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=6938"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=6938"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=6938"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}