{"id":2300,"date":"2011-02-10T20:15:56","date_gmt":"2011-02-11T00:15:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/?p=3928"},"modified":"2023-04-30T14:51:43","modified_gmt":"2023-04-30T18:51:43","slug":"which-do-you-prefer-gps-or-4g-data","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/2011\/02\/which-do-you-prefer-gps-or-4g-data\/","title":{"rendered":"Which do you prefer, GPS or 4G data?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/02\/GPS_Satellite_NASA_art.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"650\" height=\"520\" src=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/02\/GPS_Satellite_NASA_art-650x520.jpg\" alt=\"Block II GPS satellite\" class=\"wp-image-2310\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/02\/GPS_Satellite_NASA_art-650x520.jpg 650w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/02\/GPS_Satellite_NASA_art-150x120.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/02\/GPS_Satellite_NASA_art-300x240.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/02\/GPS_Satellite_NASA_art-400x320.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/02\/GPS_Satellite_NASA_art.jpg 748w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 650px) 100vw, 650px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Block II GPS satellite<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>In some locations, it is apparently going to be an either-or situation if <a rel=\"noopener\" href=\"http:\/\/www.gpsworld.com\/gnss-system\/news\/data-shows-disastrous-gps-jamming-fcc-approved-broadcaster-11029\" target=\"_blank\">this<\/a> is to be believed:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>Representatives of the GPS industry presented to members of the Federal Communications Commission clear, strong laboratory evidence of interference with the GPS signal by a proposed new broadcaster on January 19 of this year. The teleconference and subsequent written results of the testing apparently did not dissuade FCC International Bureau Chief Mindel De La Torre from authorizing Lightsquared to proceed with ancillary terrestrial component operations, installing up to 40,000 high-power transmitters close to the GPS frequency, across the United States.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Sound vaguely familiar? &nbsp;Seems that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.lightsquared.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">LightSquared<\/a> took a page from the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ibiquity.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">iBiquity<\/a> play book when it comes to dealing with the FCC. &nbsp; The article goes on to say:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>On January 26, the <em>FCC waived its own rules<\/em> (emphasis mine) and granted permission for the potential interferer to broadcast in the L Band 1 (1525 MHz\u20141559 MHz) from powerful land-based transmitters.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>A little research on the LightSquared website shows they are rolling out an extensive <a rel=\"noopener\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/L_band\" target=\"_blank\">L band<\/a> <a rel=\"noopener\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/4g\" target=\"_blank\">4G<\/a> data network, not exactly what I would call broadcasting, at least not yet anyway. \u00a0<a rel=\"noopener\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Global_Positioning_System\" target=\"_blank\">GPS<\/a> system inhabits 1559 &#8211; 1610 MHz, centered around 1575.42 Mhz in the L-band. \u00a0The signals coming from <a rel=\"noopener\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/GPS_signals\" target=\"_blank\">GPS<\/a> satellites are very, very low, with the open sky signal around -130 to -135 dBm. \u00a0Indoor signals can be as low as -150 dBm. \u00a0Further, GPS receivers currently in the field were not built to operate in environments with high levels of RF energy on nearby frequencies.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So, who uses GPS? \u00a0Just about everybody, including the military, the aviation industry, broadcasters, and the general public. \u00a0Think about all the confused drivers who can no longer find their way to the grocery store without Tom-Tom. \u00a0By far, the biggest impact is likely to be the entire cell phone network, which depends on GPS for its multiplex timing. \u00a0It seems very likely that LightSquared network will be installed on existing broadcast and cell towers, right on top of the current cellular tenants. \u00a0Even if they work around this by providing better GPS receivers with high pass filters, \u00a0many existing consumer and aviation GPS receivers will be useless.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The potential interference is charted here:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/02\/Table-2-W.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"436\" height=\"193\" src=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/02\/Table-2-W.jpg\" alt=\"Interference to consumer grade GPS receivers\" class=\"wp-image-2305\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/02\/Table-2-W.jpg 436w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/02\/Table-2-W-150x66.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/02\/Table-2-W-300x132.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/02\/Table-2-W-400x177.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 436px) 100vw, 436px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Interference to consumer grade GPS receivers<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>For FAA-certified GPS receivers, the data is worse:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/02\/Table-3-W.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"453\" height=\"175\" src=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/02\/Table-3-W.jpg\" alt=\"Interference to FAA certified GPS receivers\" class=\"wp-image-2306\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/02\/Table-3-W.jpg 453w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/02\/Table-3-W-150x57.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/02\/Table-3-W-300x115.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/02\/Table-3-W-400x154.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 453px) 100vw, 453px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Interference to FAA certified GPS receivers<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>The FAA-certified aviation receivers are more sensitive, therefore, more likely to be impacted.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It makes me wonder, what is going on in Washington?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>UPDATE: <\/strong>March 3, 2011,&nbsp;KNX, Los Angles runs with the story: <a href=\"http:\/\/losangeles.cbslocal.com\/2011\/03\/03\/planned-4g-service-could-cause-widespead-gps-jamming\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Planned 4G service could cause widespread GPS jamming<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In some locations, it is apparently going to be an either-or situation if this is to be believed: Representatives of the GPS industry presented to members of the Federal Communications Commission clear, strong laboratory evidence of interference with the GPS signal by a proposed new broadcaster on January 19 of this year. The teleconference and &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/2011\/02\/which-do-you-prefer-gps-or-4g-data\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Which do you prefer, GPS or 4G data?<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[24,4],"tags":[188],"class_list":["post-2300","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-fcc","category-tech-stuff","tag-gps"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2300","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2300"}],"version-history":[{"count":12,"href":"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2300\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":11872,"href":"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2300\/revisions\/11872"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2300"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2300"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.engineeringradio.us\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2300"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}